10:03 karlfisch : good morning
10:11 JimFolk : Good morning everyone.
10:21 cnelson : Hellooooo form SC!!
10:21 cnelson : Im in Rock Hill, SC today instead of Myrtle Beach
10:22 cnelson : will do--feedback to Karl is officially on the to do list
10:23 cnelson : Im going to be purple
10:28 chrischampion : Hello from Harrisburg, PA
10:29 cnelson : OK since my name is blue, Ill be blue intead
10:29 cnelson : Hi Chris
10:29 cnelson : from Rock Hill, SC today (15 miles south of Charlotte, NC
10:29 budtheteacher : Hi, cathy!
10:30 cnelson : He y there EdTech Posse member Bud!!
10:30 JimFolk : Hey Bud... James Folkestad here.
10:30 budtheteacher : y
10:31 willrich45 : hey everyone
10:31 budtheteacher : Hi, James! You know, we were in the same room for a whole day - and we still haven't properly met. I'm sorry about that.
10:31 budtheteacher : Wiiiiiiillll!
10:31 willrich45 : BBBBUUUUUUUUDDDDDD!!!!!!
10:31 cnelson : Hi Will
10:31 chrischampion : We see that really come out in Vocational Ed
10:32 JimFolk : Yes, well sometimes conferences that you are running take your attention :)
10:32 willrich45 : HEy Cathy
10:32 budtheteacher : yeah - but I'm sorry 'bout that.
10:32 JimFolk : Nice to meet you
10:32 cnelson : GREAT QUESTION!!
10:33 willrich45 : Always fun to see former students in the room...hello Chris!
10:33 chrischampion : LOL... Hey Mr. R
10:33 chrischampion : :-P Will
10:33 willrich45 : ha
10:33 willrich45 : I think you're old enough now to go by first names
10:33 cnelson : ur aging urself will confessing former studens LOL
10:34 chrischampion : 39 y/o and I still feel uncomfortable
10:34 cnelson : u meant to say colleague right?
10:34 chrischampion : Cathy - will was my HS Journalism teacher in 1995
10:35 chrischampion : 85
10:35 willrich45 : whew
10:35 willrich45 : scared me there for a sec
10:35 cnelson : 85 i was still in college
10:35 chrischampion : ha ha
10:35 JimFolk : Hey Will. James Folkestad here for Colorado State University (CSU). We have not met but love your work.
10:35 willrich45 : Hey James...thanks...looking forward to coming out to CO again.
10:36 willrich45 : Is chat up on screen?
10:36 cnelson : Chris do u have a blog? I'd like to read somene molded by the Will Rich"
10:36 JimFolk : When?
10:36 thekyleguy : in a meeting, but wanted to see what was happening
10:36 willrich45 : Kyle...this is better than a meeting...
10:36 willrich45 : James...sometime this fall, I think.
10:36 chriswherley : what technology are they using for presentation?
10:36 khokanson : am going to have to count on someone to copy the chat from the beginning
10:37 khokanson : for some reason mine JSUT refreshed
10:37 cnelson : James -- just dont ride in his car--risky!!
10:37 thekyleguy : Learning about moodle so it is fun. but I wanted to follow this project a bit. Will come back to listen to audio assuming it is recorded
10:37 willrich45 : Hey Kristen,...we have to petition UStream to start archiving chat too
10:37 khokanson : seriously
10:37 khokanson : I was here the whole time
10:37 khokanson : thought where are all these viewers
10:38 JimFolk : Great... love to meet up. Let me know - car = risky?
10:38 willrich45 : uh oh
10:38 willrich45 : some straming issues here
10:38 khokanson : @willrich try refreshing the VIDEO window (bottom left corner)
10:39 willrich45 : working now
10:39 JimFolk : Have to step away for a few min... back in 20.
10:40 khokanson : does anyone have students (besides at Arapahoe) watching this today?
10:40 willrich45 : It's Karl!
10:40 chrischampion : Cathy: http://SparksOfHope.org/ remember we didn't even have PCs in 85..
10:40 willrich45 : Lots of business owners are in prison.
10:40 willrich45 : ;0)
10:41 budtheteacher : Link to the CoveritLive (scroll to the bottom of Karl's post.) http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2008/02/ustreaming-and-live-blogging-daniel.html
10:41 budtheteacher : Hey, Phil!
10:42 willrich45 : True...schools are so uncreative in terms of space
10:43 thekyleguy : students in front look really engaged
10:43 thekyleguy : 52 viewers
10:43 willrich45 : They just got told they would be getting money
10:43 willrich45 : That's engaging...
10:43 khokanson : I am amazed by their live blog
10:43 thekyleguy : lol, sure is. too bad i cant hear
10:43 thekyleguy : thanks Will
10:44 pgoerner : live blog- are they using cover it live? Where
10:44 khokanson : yes on thefischbowl
10:44 pgoerner : ooops...thanks bude
10:44 cnelson : yes cover it live is i use
10:44 pgoerner : BUd
10:44 khokanson : ME TOO
10:44 budtheteacher : Phil - they are. http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com Scroll down a bit to find it.
10:44 khokanson : collaborative, reaching out, sythesizing, formualating ideas about things
10:45 cnelson : AMEN DAN Arts integration
10:45 khokanson : reading and working in interesting ways, doing collaborative work
10:45 khokanson : don't we WISH this was happening everywhere
10:45 willrich45 : ugh...I still find all the back channel distracting...is it me?
10:45 cnelson : learning through the arts W00T!!
10:45 pgoerner : Thanks- I'm trying to do two workshops- Vicki Davis (cool cat teacher) is presenting in IL on wikis
10:45 khokanson : @willrich I am letting the kids od their live blogging and staying out
10:45 khokanson : will go there later
10:45 cnelson : i tell teaches this all the time--work with another content area on projects
10:45 budtheteacher : wowo - busy morning for you, phil. What's the Vicki link?
10:46 khokanson : and synthesize information from the 2
10:46 willrich45 : Is Karl taking questions from Ustream audience?
10:46 khokanson : we will be archiving this chat
10:46 pgoerner : Looks like the kids are questioning huh.
10:46 cnelson : argg sound keeps dropping
10:46 cnelson : perhaps its "pitchy?"
10:46 khokanson : what was the question did anyone catch it
10:46 cnelson : :)
10:46 budtheteacher : @willrich45: I think it can be a distraction, for sure. But it's also a differentiation method that allows for an awful lot of active learning and thinking and writing and wondering.
10:46 chrischampion : I'm so disappointed with my connection here. I'll have to check out the recording. @khokanson can you archive the chat for us? :-)
10:46 willrich45 : wow...multiworkshopping
10:46 budtheteacher : one "speaker" but lots of conversation.
10:47 cfoote : hi all :)
10:47 khokanson : @chrischampion will do
10:47 cnelson : Hi Carolyn
10:47 willrich45 : Carolyn!
10:47 chrischampion : Hey carolyn
10:47 khokanson : Bud is catching the beginning but I have been doing too
10:47 cfoote : Kristin, thanks for twittering, i had forgotten

10:48 khokanson : sure thing
10:48 khokanson : @cnelson I think the really wanted this to be for the kids...but so many folks were involved.
10:48 cnelson : KArl have u ever used Elluminate? get a vrooom!
10:48 cfoote : is there a way we can see what he's showing on the screen?
10:48 chrischampion : squint
10:48 willrich45 : ha
10:48 cnelson : @cfoote which is why i wish it were an elluminate session
10:48 rairvin : I was just squinting!
10:48 rairvin : not working too well
10:49 cnelson : ooohh lala Dan!
10:49 willrich45 : @bud I hear you on the differentiation point. But I find it hard to listen to what he is saying and read the chat and now respond to you etc.
10:49 willrich45 : Multitasking hell to read the live blog
10:49 willrich45 : ;0)
10:49 budtheteacher : I'm sure that they're working LOTS of bandwidth in there. And the kids in the room are the focus. How nice that we can be included, too.
10:50 cnelson : @budtheteacher the feeling is surreal
10:50 budtheteacher : @will - yeah - not for everybody - or for all times. I've been getting lots out of reading archived liveblogs, though - so maybe there's the big value - in returning later.
10:50 khokanson : wow what a great reflection for a freshman
10:50 cnelson : absolutely
10:51 ddesroches : excellent questions and comments from the students
10:51 kjarrett : URL for live blog plz
10:51 willrich45 : No doubt, this process has really deepened these kids's understanding of the ideas and concepts...
10:51 cfoote : our announcements are going on endlessly so I can't hear
10:51 fifer1863 : what grade level are the students?
10:51 willrich45 : Anyone think they won't be thinking of this for a long time to come?
10:51 ddesroches : http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2008/02/ustreaming-and-live-blogging-daniel.html
10:51 kjarrett : @ddesroches ty
10:51 willrich45 : 70 viewers...let's all tweet it again...
10:51 cnelson : just did
10:52 cnelson : and sent my in state network a 1.0 listserv call
10:52 metaweb : thanks cathy
10:52 kjarrett : done
10:52 budtheteacher : @kjarrett: http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com
10:52 cnelson : you r welcome
10:52 willrich45 : KJ!!!!!
10:52 kjarrett : @willrich45 SUP DUUUUUUDE?
10:53 kjarrett : Free Agent Nation was terrific...
10:53 willrich45 : What's the over/under on Ustream vieweres for this
10:53 cnelson : woner how many from ice are here
10:53 willrich45 : KJ.
10:53 willrich45 : Free agent nation was great, I agree
10:53 thekyleguy : @kjarrett Thanks for getting back to me re: SL
10:53 kjarrett : Yes, @willrich45?
10:54 kjarrett : Sure thing @thekyleguy, let's connect 2nite @ ISTE
10:54 metaweb : Thanks God I am right-brain dominant!
10:54 kjarrett : My daughter is about to head to college majoring in tv/film/media
10:55 kjarrett : Media Studies = Teh Shiznit!
10:55 thekyleguy : @kjarrett that wont work for me, but reall soon I will track you down
10:55 kjarrett : @thekyleguy kk np
10:55 kpruitt : Wow!
10:55 kjarrett : Listen to these questions!~
10:55 kjarrett : Wow!
10:55 khokanson : gah I just LOVE listening to these kids
10:56 willrich45 : me too
10:56 rairvin : me too
10:56 chrischampion : my next door neighbor teacher and I are agast
10:56 willrich45 : I need more play
10:56 rairvin : don't we all!
10:56 kjarrett : I get to play all day
10:56 kjarrett : In my class
10:56 kjarrett : with K-4 kids!
10:56 willrich45 : He's great with kids
10:56 kjarrett : work=play
10:57 cfoote : we've got a group in here in Texas watching on one computer where Ustream isn't blocked!
10:57 cnelson : LOL cfoote!
10:57 cfoote : @willrich45 He is good with kids :)
10:57 cnelson : is it on a projector?
10:57 cfoote : no..lol..at our front library desk
10:57 metaweb : are all of these Ustreams available for embedding after live session ends? as prerecorded sessions?
10:57 willrich45 : Carolyn...that is the sad part...how many people can't get the Tweets or can't get to Twitter or can't get to Karl's live blog.
10:57 cnelson : what we do to monitor and adjust
10:57 cfoote : we have one unfiltered station there.
10:57 willrich45 : How. Stupid.
10:57 cfoote : Right, @willrich45 I couldn't send it to our principal to watch bec. she is filtered
10:57 willrich45 : (I meantgo to Ustream)
10:58 cfoote : lol
10:58 cnelson : i am thankful @metaweb that I have a login to bypass blocks
10:58 cnelson : many do not
10:58 chrischampion : 9th graders...wow
10:58 cnelson : we r old as dirt
10:58 budtheteacher : Howmany people don't have the time or opportunity to learn like this?
10:58 kjarrett : 1978! I was in HS!
10:58 cnelson : i was a ninth grader
10:58 rairvin : 1978, i was 4
10:58 khokanson : I know @chrischampion it was great to work with these kids...if you go back and read the posts for this project....
10:58 willrich45 : Oy...old.
10:59 budtheteacher : 1978? I was born. Man, that was rough . . .
10:59 cfoote : nice question
10:59 kjarrett : Has he talked at all about Second Life?
10:59 khokanson : @willrich45 I KNOW you are gonna pipe in on this :)
10:59 RichWhite : darn ... its buffering .. I wanted to hear the video game stuff
10:59 kjarrett : Or any virtual worlds for that matter?
10:59 kjarrett : WoW?
10:59 cnelson : i was there virtually-i think thye decided benefits do outweigh drawbacks IMHO
10:59 khokanson : authentic research
11:00 khokanson : amazing this project is AMAZING
11:00 kjarrett : Virtual gaming =! substitute for RL interaction
11:00 kpruitt : weigh both sides of tech...great skill
11:00 khokanson : or on ustream :P
11:00 kjarrett : BALANCE
11:00 kjarrett : what a concept
11:00 kpruitt : :)
11:00 willrich45 : @khokanson I have no opinon ;0)
11:00 cnelson : darn the audio dropping
11:01 metaweb : Karl is using CoverIt live blogging on his site now
11:01 cfoote : well, the kids are so much more informed because they have talked through this book
11:01 cnelson : must realize that id games make learning wasy b/c we arent punished for failure
11:01 willrich45 : The blogging I did with the class was really interesting...
11:01 cnelson : no fear
11:01 willrich45 : I think I pushed pretty hard but they just kept coming right back at me
11:01 kpruitt : "in life you don't get another quarter" - lol
11:01 willrich45 : Right...no fear.
11:01 cnelson : failure - no fear
11:01 chrischampion : Portal
11:01 cfoote : we have a student aide watching this with us now too
11:01 willrich45 : They've been taught
11:02 chrischampion : puzzle game
11:02 cfoote : we're discussing his points about video games.
11:02 cnelson : hi student in Austin
11:02 RichWhite : .... the great thing about virtual environments - lets kids experience things they can IRL - explore the inside of a volcano - disect a dinosaur etc.
11:02 RichWhite : audio dropping
11:02 RichWhite : I cand hear most of the discussion .. darn
11:02 budtheteacher : i think the students DID do a great job with their live blogging.
11:02 willrich45 : Moderation...is that an issue for adults too?
11:02 cnelson : glazed look = bad
11:02 cnelson : everything too can be an addiction
11:02 kjarrett : Tell you what, these kids give you hope for the future, honestly.
11:03 kjarrett : SLA kids too!
11:03 kpruitt : I see kids in restaurants like that...DS..far away look...chicken fingers
11:03 willrich45 : kpruitt...I see kids like that at basketball games.
11:03 willrich45 : Mistakes are good
11:03 budtheteacher : @willrich45: Uh - yeah. But perhaps we're the wrong adults to tackle that one.
11:03 willrich45 : And you aren't going to learn.
11:03 kpruitt : parents w/ newspapers....kids with DS
11:03 cnelson : i get the glazed look in fac meetings, does that count?
11:03 cfoote : in his presentation last weekend, Dan Maas was talkinga bout rewarding struggle too
11:03 cnelson : can i get a med excuse to not attend?
11:04 willrich45 : Tackle what one?
11:04 willrich45 : @bud...oh the moderation one?
11:04 willrich45 : ;0)
11:04 budtheteacher : @will - the moderation one.
11:04 rairvin : <censored> and screw up, i love how authenitc he is!
11:04 willrich45 : yeah...we're not poster children for moderation are we?
11:05 budtheteacher : says the guy monitoring two chat rooms while talking on the phone.
11:05 chrischampion : Cathy: I get the same glazed look as the kids who drool on their desks in a boring, old school class
11:05 budtheteacher : (That guy is me.)
11:05 willrich45 : and checking Twitter and e-mail
11:05 willrich45 : and blogging
11:05 willrich45 : and...
11:05 kpruitt : Will...as I lose myself in my laptop most nights :)
11:05 budtheteacher : Killer question, rachel - how do the six senses play out in Daniel Pink's own life?
11:05 khokanson : oh no....off air
11:05 rairvin : my feed just dropped
11:06 budtheteacher : refresh
11:06 rairvin : got it
11:06 cfoote : lol..who is typing?
11:06 cfoote : is that you bud?
11:06 kpruitt : Chris's Ls link to "last lecture" today was good
11:07 cnelson : woah deep qstn
11:07 GreenbushLIVE : what video conferencing software are you using?
11:07 chrischampion : LOL
11:07 rairvin : it sounds like a phantom typer
11:07 pgoerner : my goodness the cover it live is smoking on the blog page!
11:07 willrich45 : My struggle, even at this moment, is not feeling somewhat guilty for watching this...should be hacking away at my todo list...
11:07 cnelson : someone drop karls link again
11:08 willrich45 : http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2008/02/ustreaming-and-live-blogging-daniel.html
11:08 khokanson : http://thefischbowl.blogspot.com/2008/02/ustreaming-and-live-blogging-daniel.html
11:08 willrich45 : Beat ya
11:09 cnelson : thanks both
11:10 cnelson : can i mute the phantom typer on fischbowl coveritlive?
11:10 cnelson : its highly dustracting
11:10 cnelson : distracting
11:10 kjarrett : @cnelson OMG YES!
11:10 kjarrett : x-eleventy-billion!
11:11 cfoote : we're helping our student figure out if he's left brain or right brained..since he overheard that conversation
11:11 cnelson : may have to bail out of coverit live stuff
11:11 willrich45 : cnelson there is a mute
11:11 khokanson : @cathy at the bottom bar of cover it live ther ei s am ut
11:11 willrich45 : at the bottom of the box
11:11 khokanson : gah will you are KILLING ME today :P
11:11 willrich45 : haha
11:11 khokanson : you must have kids at home that are gamers you are competing with :)
11:11 cnelson : THANKS Will
11:11 kpruitt : 4 billion a year on pets
11:11 willrich45 : They don't play no stinkin games in my house. ;0)
11:12 cnelson : LOL
11:12 kjarrett : @willrich45 AHHH! thanks
11:12 cnelson : its all that "home schooling" right Will?
11:12 metaweb : sometimes I prefer non-human animals more
11:12 willrich45 : I just plunked down major $$ as my kids both made AAU basketball teams...
11:12 willrich45 : The computer is now off limits.
11:12 willrich45 : ;0)
11:12 khokanson : yeah I hear they are not creative or playful either ;-)
11:12 budtheteacher : Why does video games always equal killing??
11:12 cnelson : now u wil surely have NO LIFE Will
11:12 willrich45 : Amen to that
11:12 cnelson : it is theirs, ALL theirs
11:12 willrich45 : TRAVEL teams...oy
11:13 cnelson : been there done that
11:13 willrich45 : at least I have my wireless broadband modem
11:13 cnelson : ur so cool
11:13 willrich45 : I'll be a gym-blogger
11:13 cnelson : we wnt to see the pix
11:13 willrich45 : @bud Because those are the only video games that are marketed
11:13 kpruitt : "get a job" mentality
11:14 kpruitt : me me me
11:14 metaweb : Here is Mexico, animals are considered "animals" ... but I love animals, I have a hard time separating them from humans ... we are all sharing this world together
11:14 cfoote : symphony--that was the blog I participated in
11:14 willrich45 : I wonder when kids will stop saying "I did my 'paper'..." Just an observation.
11:14 cfoote : that's a profound thing for students to understand
11:15 budtheteacher : But the best selling games in the world are games like The Sims and Sim City and other design and creation and problem solving ones.
11:15 cfoote : that everything is a product of design.
11:15 khokanson : this whole project I think has set the tone for 9th graders in HS...
11:15 khokanson : and setting a path for learning
11:15 RichWhite : and Spore will be huge !
11:15 JimFolk : Maybe when we stop asking them to do papers.
11:15 budtheteacher : @Will - Will they begin to say: I documented my learning on . . .
11:15 ddesroches : these students are in grade 9?
11:15 willrich45 : @bud...oh...don't tease me now!
11:15 RichWhite : ..... a real experience type of learning game
11:15 JimFolk : :)
11:16 budtheteacher : @Rich: Yes - it will be. Interesting piece on Spore in Newsweek this week.
11:16 willrich45 : What's Spore?
11:16 kpruitt : The stupid right hand, left hand desks university's still use
11:16 kpruitt : Too early to figure out which hand I am :)
11:17 budtheteacher : BusinessWeek article on Spore. http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/feb2008/id20080214_813286.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_businessweek+exclusives
11:17 shareski : Has he addressed any of Gary STager's criticism?
11:17 kjarrett : Spore=wild
11:17 RichWhite : @willrich45 - its another Will Wright game ---- here is his TED talk --- http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/146
11:17 willrich45 : @shareski HAHAHAHAHA
11:17 kjarrett : ok all 1st graders in the hall, gotta go play! see ya!
11:18 kpruitt : How is the audio so good? How many mics do we have?
11:18 cfoote : glad he's mentioning classroom design
11:18 RichWhite : Will Wrights TED talk is amazing !
11:18 shareski : Serioulsy, doesn't Gary think he's full of <censored>?
11:18 cfoote : do students even think about that we design classrooms?
11:18 willrich45 : Thanks for link
11:18 willrich45 : @shareski And your point?
11:18 willrich45 : ;0)
11:19 JimFolk : @cfoote - great question. Karl can you ask this one?
11:19 willrich45 : We're gonna get 100 viewers.
11:19 RichWhite : Wonder what a students designed classroom would look like?
11:19 khokanson : I think you need to have design skills IN business
11:19 DavidJakes : Howdy everyone
11:19 RichWhite : if they could design their own learning space
11:19 willrich45 : JAKES!!!!
11:19 khokanson : up to 80 viewers
11:19 shareski : Jakes is in the house? Bye everyone ;)
11:19 budtheteacher : @cfoote: How much thought has been put into designing most of the classroom spaces that we use?
11:19 khokanson : we need you big dogs with lots of followers to be TWEETING :)
11:19 kpruitt : I think you need design skills for curriculum!
11:20 DavidJakes : hahahaha
11:20 thekyleguy : lots of familiar faces in here. Wish I could be listening. Nice to at least follow chat
11:20 budtheteacher : Hi, David.
11:20 shareski : Bud, was Stager on with you?
11:20 DavidJakes : Hello Bud, Will
11:20 willrich45 : Sounds like IL TCE has jumped the shark on Web 2.0
11:20 cfoote : Hi David!
11:20 JimFolk : @budtheteacher - yes and computer lab space get my interest.
11:21 cnelson : Hi David--we wondered how many ICE people would show up
11:21 budtheteacher : @shareski: He was. He was an excellent teacher.
11:21 cfoote : this must be really getting the students thinking differently about what school COULD be
11:21 RichWhite : @cfoote -- absolutely !
11:22 cnelson : Pink could be the catalyst for a revolution at AHS
11:22 willrich45 : @cfoote Isn't it something that no one every has that conversation with them?
11:22 JimFolk : @ cnelson - what is the ICE?
11:22 RichWhite : sounds very montessorial
11:22 khokanson : that is a GREAT point...when you have a problem it doesn't come to you compartmentalized, it comes to you integrated
11:22 shareski : @Bud how what would you say was his biggest criticism of Pink?
11:22 cnelson : Ill conf
11:22 budtheteacher : "A big, honking, steaming problem." I like the sound of that.
11:22 cfoote : @willrich45 I know, I wonder...we have students with us every day and we could be talking about these things :)
11:22 willrich45 : @shareski I think Gary's biggest issue is that Pink is not an educator.
11:22 RichWhite : This could be the keynote for the montessori convention *LOL*
11:23 willrich45 : @cfoote amen
11:23 cnelson : @will how many other business books have we adopted tho?
11:23 metaweb : the CoverIt live blogginf seems less converstional than here ... delayed posting too
11:23 khokanson : @willrich45 so does someone need to be an educator to be a teacher?
11:23 cnelson : not in SC Kristin
11:23 willrich45 : @khokanson Ask Gary. ;0)
11:23 cnelson : we r so desperate for teachers we are taking business ppl keft and right
11:23 cnelson : required to do very little to get cert
11:23 khokanson : I think all of the things he is "teaching" while geared towards buisness are VERY relevant for education
11:23 shareski : @willrich45....I knew that but I think he also questioned some specific arguements of Pink....I'll have to go look it up on the blog
11:24 willrich45 : He did
11:24 cfoote : @willrich45 doesn't pink also have a journalism background or no?
11:24 willrich45 : Ah...nice...Pavlovian bells
11:24 willrich45 : Yes
11:24 willrich45 : he was a speechwriter
11:24 cfoote : wow, what a great question :)
11:24 kpruitt : Authentic learning from authentic pros?? Hmmm
11:24 willrich45 : Silos
11:24 cfoote : ok...no wonder he can communicate well with the students. He's aware of his audience.
11:24 willrich45 : that's the problem
11:24 khokanson : ha ha @willrich45 I hear the bell and all of a sudden get hungry is it lunchtime :)
11:24 willrich45 : ha
11:24 RichWhite : ha ha ha *mouth watering*
11:25 willrich45 : Silos
11:25 khokanson : it actually IS my lunch period here in PA... invited my asst supt to join me for lunch and learn today :)
11:25 kpruitt : Use Obama model...Motivation=Change
11:26 kpruitt : @Will...that's your school..when do we apply
11:26 budtheteacher : This is on the ustream front page.
11:26 willrich45 : ha
11:26 willrich45 : Hello World!
11:26 cnelson : wow 88 viewrs
11:26 JimFolk : @kpruitt - What does everyone thing of the Obama model? Is it an example of "grass roots" web2.0?
11:26 willrich45 : Now watch the numbers climb
11:26 metaweb : the live polls over on Karl's blog using CoverIt are kind of interesting!
11:27 budtheteacher-1 : Actually, they're going down. Weird.
11:27 cevanoff : Great conversation! I love it!
11:27 willrich45 : If education could get 1 million contributors in six months, we'd get somewhere
11:27 kpruitt : @Jim Its a perfect storm...Dean had it going but messed it up
11:27 kpruitt : or media messed him up
11:27 cnelson : u mean in $$$$ too WIll?
11:27 willrich45 : yeah
11:28 willrich45 : 90
11:28 shareski : Stager says "Left/right brain is at best an oversimplified sound-bite used to pigeon hole people and excuse deficiencies. At worst, it's junk science."
11:28 kpruitt : lol
11:28 willrich45 : But the issue always comes back to "How does this scale?"
11:28 budtheteacher-1 : @shareski: I think he found it to be an oversimplification.
11:28 cnelson : ok i am an oldie here, but i swear all my greatest teachers did these things--integrate, make learning relevant
11:28 JimFolk : Yes an oversimplification
11:28 willrich45 : Greatest teachers yes
11:28 budtheteacher-1 : @willrich45: Maybe it can''t. Maybe small learning communities are not inherently scalable because they need to be a mix of the local and the global.
11:29 KarenJanowski : yes, neurologists would agree about the oversimplification part
11:29 pgoerner : Time for the pledge!
11:29 budtheteacher-1 : I'm happy to write tardy passes for anyone who needs one.
11:29 RichWhite : *mouth watering*
11:29 willrich45 : Ah...back to the local global conversation again...;0)
11:29 willrich45 : Oh this is priceless
11:29 willrich45 : HA
11:29 cfoote : lol..this is too funny
11:29 shareski : do I have to stand...I'm Canadian
11:29 metaweb : they are talking about GOD
11:29 cnelson : LOL
11:29 RichWhite : ... that was random
11:29 JimFolk : I stood :)
11:29 cfoote : we just had to do that about 30 minutes ago while watching this
11:29 willrich45 : TOO FUNNY
11:29 chriswherley-1 : do we stand
11:29 cnelson : shhh
11:29 pgoerner : @shareski :)
11:30 budtheteacher-1 : I find it interesting that they broke the schedule to have this conversation. But that the building's schedule continued.
11:30 cnelson : they talk during announcemnts just like my kids
11:30 willrich45 : What did he say?
11:30 chriswherley-1 : i can't type that fast to type the pledge
11:30 kpruitt : @chris it should have happend automatically
11:30 shareski : More from Gary..."Since Pink has never been someone with deep experiences in either side of the bifurcated (divided down the middle) world he paints, his conclusions are suspect. In fact, I think he started with the conclusions he wanted to write about and then searched for ways to support those ide
11:30 kpruitt : Were trained
11:30 JimFolk : Talk about the industrial model.
11:30 willrich45 : you just can't get away from school
11:30 cnelson : WOAH @shareski
11:30 khokanson : what did I miss...had to go make a sandwich...are they taking a break?
11:30 chriswherley-1 : word, powerpoint, excel
11:30 budtheteacher-1 : daily announcements.
11:30 cnelson : I love that Gary tries to challenge all thinking
11:30 willrich45 : The Pledge interrupted
11:30 budtheteacher-1 : so a quick break
11:30 kpruitt : @shareski - backward design model
11:31 KarenJanowski : announcement. pledge of allegiance break
11:31 willrich45 : Mercy...I'm having flashbacks
11:31 shareski : THese announcements are really engaging the students
11:31 metaweb : @shareski anything backed by a money-making initiative is suspect
11:31 cnelson : does it really matter? It has made MANY rethink
11:31 RichWhite : ..... *LOL* .... hope they rememebr we can hear them
11:31 budtheteacher-1 : I just head a student ask - Am I being smart?
11:31 budtheteacher-1 : good question - all the time.
11:31 willrich45 : Hey Karen...just read a comment you left on my blog a couple of years ago.
11:31 willrich45 : Uh o
11:31 willrich45 : Did we lose the stream?
11:31 robinellis-1 : seem to have
11:31 RichWhite : ... LOL .. giver her positive re-inforcement quick!
11:31 cnelson : thnk Karl decided we did not ned to hear normal disregard for daily ann
11:32 KarenJanowski : @willrich45 - which comment - i used to leave alot of comments on your blog
11:32 budtheteacher-1 : stream back
11:32 willrich45 : The one about giving your kids the option of going to college
11:32 budtheteacher-1 : refresh if you don't yet have it.
11:32 KarenJanowski : i hope it was a good one!
11:32 shareski : @Karen....used to?
11:32 pgoerner : announcements over already?
11:32 willrich45 : lost lots of viewers
11:32 cnelson : thanks for the refresh reminder
11:32 shareski : Someone's Skping Karl
11:32 KarenJanowski : @willrich45 - funny - I'm struggling with that decision right not with my son who is a senior
11:32 cnelson : heard it too
11:33 willrich45 : @shareski was wondering why she stopped too... ;0)
11:33 KarenJanowski : @shareski - i go through spurts!
11:33 willrich45 : no worries, Karen
11:33 cnelson : he's human after all
11:33 shareski : Will is not worthy of spurts ;)
11:33 cnelson : LOL
11:33 cnelson : ROFL
11:33 willrich45 : "Don't die Mr. Pink"
11:33 shareski : Why is Bud in here twice? Budtheteacher and budtheteacher1
11:34 willrich45 : Bud is da mans
11:34 cnelson : opend ustream twice
11:34 shareski : Play is work
11:34 kpruitt : noooo
11:34 shareski : Work is play
11:34 metaweb : one is bud's left brain, and the other is his right brain
11:34 shareski : Can't work be fun?
11:34 shareski : @metaweb....good one
11:34 kpruitt : ask my co-workers..I just "play"
11:34 khokanson : Play can get in the way with work...I am STILL working, having FUN an learning right here
11:34 willrich45 : @shareski...turn of the bold already
11:35 KarenJanowski : need work/play balance
11:35 kpruitt : now I am just watching movies
11:35 khokanson : @willrich45 don't you know by now...shareski has to get the MOST attention in a room ;-)
11:35 cnelson : I wish I could tell Pink that I've gotten choked before to--live in fornt of an audience
11:35 shareski : Just the way I am
11:35 cnelson : tears streaming choked--on water
11:35 willrich45 : Are we working right now or playing?
11:35 cnelson : hman nature to mix both Will
11:36 kpruitt : If this is work I put in a 20 hr work day :)
11:36 khokanson : what ever we are @willrich45 I know I am LEARNING and isn't that our ultimate goal as educators?
11:36 cnelson : ritualistic
11:36 KarenJanowski : love these questions!
11:36 willrich45 : uh boy
11:36 willrich45 : nice
11:36 cnelson : not real world--its not done in other professions is it?
11:36 cnelson : worldly
11:36 KarenJanowski : have to get to work but listening to these students is compelling!
11:37 shareski : The audio is awesome...what mic is he using
11:37 kpruitt : Patriotism is not a motivator anymore - WWII, Red Scare motivator...9/11 too
11:37 willrich45 : Is learning work?
11:37 willrich45 : Or play?
11:37 willrich45 : Or both?
11:37 shareski : Not when you do it right
11:38 KarenJanowski : last night our town held a World Cafe and included 25 high school students - they were awesome!
11:38 shareski : It's play...exploration
11:38 khokanson : @shareski Dan Pink is coming through skype I don't know HOW they are preventing the feedback..he does hav eon headsets
11:38 cnelson : ok some teachers DO really teach what it is
11:38 metaweb : By all, gotta prepare for teacher observations at junior high today ...
11:38 cnelson : i did way back when i was in a classroom
11:38 cfoote : so it is streaming but not in the ustream?
11:38 cfoote : that's too bad
11:38 cnelson : refresh Cfoote
11:38 khokanson : @carolyn under the ustream windo is a refresh video
11:38 KarenJanowski : wonder what these students think of this experience. would love to hear their reflections
11:38 khokanson : I thin it is on their end
11:39 cnelson : rituals will demean things
11:39 cnelson : i have ustream
11:39 willrich45 : gotta run everyone...was nice chatting. Enjoy!
11:39 khokanson : @karenjan I am sure tha tAnne is going to have them do that
11:39 kpruitt : Still have teachers that freak if a kid does not stand
11:39 KarenJanowski : bye, will!
11:39 cfoote : wonder if we need to refresh
11:39 khokanson : bye will
11:39 cnelson : bye Karen
11:39 cnelson : REFRESH YES
11:39 willrich45 : @khokanson can you tweet out the chat link?
11:39 cnelson : i have the ustream
11:39 khokanson : yep but you do it to
11:39 khokanson : too
11:40 cfoote : I just logged out and got it back
11:40 willrich45 : do what? save the chat?
11:40 KarenJanowski : how many students are participating in this?
11:40 kpruitt : Work calls..enjoy
11:41 shareski : these kids are bright
11:41 pgoerner : curious- does karl have the kids on laptops in the presentation room?
11:41 cnelson : some are honors eng class
11:42 cnelson : the kids get it
11:42 shareski : Someone help me understand how this discusson relates to Pink?
11:43 cnelson : did it escape anyone that once a few began participating in thepledge, all jumped up and got right in it?
11:43 cfoote : you can tell these students feel empowered by their classroom process to speak up
11:43 cnelson : Shareski one of the kids asked what he thought of the pledge
11:43 pjhiggins : @carolyn: they remind me of the students at SLA. Common denominator?
11:44 cnelson : where is one of the teachers to move us on??
11:44 cnelson : yeah
11:45 cfoote : @pjhiggins constructivist classrooms
11:45 metaweb : Back for a min. Is this a religious or public school?
11:46 metaweb : oops there goes the ustream feed again
11:46 chrischampion : oh no
11:46 pjhiggins : empowerment to think forcibly about topics that matter.
11:46 malinditeam : hi
11:46 lthumann : Did the students have a preset list of questions to disucss with Pink?
11:47 shareski : Sounds like that kid has read Seth Godin..The Dip
11:47 KarenJanowski : @pjhiggins - respect for their knowledge and experiences?
11:47 metaweb : I work in religious schools and secular private and public schools, which type of school is this? makes a dif
11:47 KarenJanowski : public school
11:47 metaweb : ok
11:47 metaweb : thanks
11:47 Lady_J : wot r they learning?
11:47 KarenJanowski : ur welcome
11:48 JimFolk : I think that was a great question. We have to be experts and we have to be generalists... can we all do this?
11:48 metaweb : go OLivia
11:48 shareski : nice question...
11:49 shareski : she's referring to Stager
11:49 KarenJanowski : Gary gets mentioned - the kids know about him!
11:49 shareski : I like it
11:50 budtheteacher-1 : had to step away for a few. What'd I miss? :)
11:51 KarenJanowski : great participation from the students - they are in control
11:52 JimFolk : @KarenJanowski - the students "live blogged" with Gary.
11:52 KarenJanowski : @jimFolk - obviously he left an impact
11:53 JimFolk : @KarenJanowski - yes he challenged them.
11:54 pjhiggins : I can't imagine having access like this as a high school student. I am so impressed.
11:54 pgoerner : @pjhiggins pretty incredible huh!
11:54 KarenJanowski : @pjhiggins - yes, it is incredible. can this happen in all our schools? is this one way we create business/school partnerships?
11:55 pgoerner : @budtheteacher - everything!
11:55 JimFolk : @karenjanowski - yes partnerships across business, universities, schools
11:55 budtheteacher-1 : @phil - Yeah - I figured. This is an excellent conversation. And we don't have to all have Daniel Pink to have it.
11:55 budtheteacher-1 : Or ustream. Or cover it live.
11:56 pgoerner : @karenjanowski I think we can do it with our students...but we have to have districts that will support us....
11:56 pgoerner : ie- allowing unblocked streaming access
11:56 KarenJanowski : wonder if all students are asking questions or if it's the same students
11:56 pgoerner : and foward thinking folks!
11:57 pjhiggins : I would love to have this conversation between schools with or wihout a megastar present.
11:57 KarenJanowski : it's starts with one visionary educator....
11:57 RichWhite : Yes.. this live video streaming is fantastic .... will even get more insane as mobile devices and wireless broadband gets more robust ... very cool
11:57 KarenJanowski : @pjhiggins - yes, that can more easily occur - what will it take?
11:57 pgoerner : @richwhite Wow- hadn't thought about mobile..I could use that!
11:58 budtheteacher : @pgoerner: What do you need from the district? How can I help?
11:58 cfoote : balance
11:59 pgoerner : @budttheteacher This- access to live video is great...blocked in some districts
11:59 pjhiggins : @karenjanowski: coordination between lead teachers
12:00 KarenJanowski : @pjhiggins - what does that take? time? resources?
12:00 JimFolk : Need to go... enjoyed it greatly... have fun everyone
12:00 KarenJanowski : bye, jim
12:01 KarenJanowski : I love how he asks the kids what they think
12:01 budtheteacher-1 : yeah - I know. We do some things right, huh?
12:01 budtheteacher-1 : I've got to go - thanks for a great conversation, everyone.
12:01 budtheteacher-1 : enjoy the rest.
12:02 budtheteacher-1 : go do good things for learning.
12:02 KarenJanowski : are the students watching this backchannel on the right side of the screen?
12:02 pgoerner : by BUd
12:02 budtheteacher-1 : @karen - That's the coveritlive from Karl's blog.
12:02 KarenJanowski : bye bud
12:02 KarenJanowski : thanks!
12:04 pgoerner : hey gang- this has been wonderful, but must go to work!
12:04 pgoerner : Thanks Karl and all!
12:05 shareski : read "Good To Great" Level 5 Leaderhip
12:07 KarenJanowski : following the live blogging on Karl's blog - he had set a new standard that will be hard to duplicate
12:08 khokanson : @karenjan they are actually...nevermind, bud answered :)
12:09 KarenJanowski : @khokanson - can you see this happening in PA?
12:11 khokanson : @karenjan am sitting with my asst supt figuring out how it will ;-)
12:12 KarenJanowski : very cool - i sent the link the asst super in my town
12:12 khokanson : @karenjan we did that at PETE & C too
12:12 khokanson : working on brining it to the classroom
12:13 KarenJanowski : yes, it's wonderful hearing the questions and thoughts of the students
12:13 KarenJanowski : he is impressed with the caliber of questions
12:13 khokanson : @karenjan aren't you
12:13 KarenJanowski : that's right - these are 9th graders!!!
12:14 KarenJanowski : @kristen - yes - commented about that earlier, we have impressive kids in all schools
12:15 cfoote : universality
12:16 JimFolk : What do they say in the United States?
12:16 SharonP : Woot! I was able to get here! Did I miss much??
12:16 cfoote : Did they say 3 a's? couldn't understand the question
12:17 cfoote : Hi Sharon! it's been great. Students have asked great questions.
12:17 SharonP : Did Dan Pink speak first?
12:17 KarenJanowski : @sharonp - this is an exciting example of using 2.0 tools for engaged, interactive learning. The students are impressive
12:17 cfoote : Sharon--he's speaking now
12:17 SharonP : I agree Karen
12:18 SharonP : I mean, did he give them a presentation first or has it been a question and answer session for the most part?
12:18 KarenJanowski : i came late - it's been all ? and answer
12:18 khokanson : @sharon has been going on for about an hour and a half
12:19 khokanson : @karenjan the kids wrote questions... based on what they read
12:19 cfoote : exciting for the students to hear about his new book
12:19 SharonP : ah - had a previous engagement and didn't think I would make it at all
12:20 chrischampion : its being recorded (I think) and @khokanson is archiving the chat
12:20 SharonP : what a fantastic opportunity for students to meet the author and for us to share!
12:20 cfoote : yeah, he mentioned libraries :)
12:20 cfoote : lol...and stuff being stolen. Always a sign of popularity of something
12:20 khokanson : because of the bandwith trouble some fo the links are broken, but I will work with Karl to get them up ASAP :)
12:21 cfoote : when is his book coming out!
12:21 KarenJanowski : he said in april
12:21 SharonP : what a cool concept! Manga Business book - very 21st c
12:23 cfoote : SharonP--went to a manga session at conference recently. Presenter had been to Japan.
12:23 cfoote : she said that many many nonfiction books in japan are published as manga
12:23 cfoote : how cool for the kids.
12:23 cfoote : for adults as well as for students.
12:24 SharonP : Just came back from Eng lg arts workshop by our ministry of ed - they are ALL OVER graphic novels
12:25 KarenJanowski : @sharonp - what do you mean by that?
12:25 greatnews : @SharonP-all over in a good way or bad way?
12:25 SharonP : They are promoting them, reading them, deconstructing them and asking students to create their own
12:25 RichWhite : .... back to the seat shop
12:25 chrischampion : Thanks Karl
12:25 cfoote : very cool! Thank you Arapahoe for asking us to participate :)
12:25 SharonP : yes, applause, applause
12:26 KarenJanowski : this was amazing, standing ovation!!!!
12:26 cfoote : and you spread the word...we had teachers gathered around computer in our library watching and asking questions
12:26 SharonP : Every class should have this opportunity
12:26 cfoote : like when can we do this :)
12:26 greatnews : @SharonP Excellent!
12:26 cfoote : Thanks again Karl!
12:26 robinellis-1 : Thank you Karl great morning
12:26 greatnews : Wish I had seen the whole session! Great converstion with the students. Hope to see it again.
12:26 cfoote : is anyone saving the chat
12:27 SharonP : Does anyone know if we use this url to see the recorded video??